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K'taka CM blames Christian orgs for communal unrest

New Delhi October 13: : With his government facing flak over recent attacks against churches, Karnataka Chief Minister B S Yeddyurappa on Monday blamed certain Christain organisations for flaring up "disharmony and social tension" in the state. "While Christians and Hindus have co-existed peacefully in the state, ther ....Read more

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What do people feelBy: Jayant R | Tuesday , 14 Oct '08 8:25:13 AM Reply | Forward The activities of these new found christian organizations (like new life) are turning truly secular hindu minds to take up a more hardline attitude. VHP/BD does not need to do that job anymore.Just 5 years back in my village (coastal Karnataka), no one talked about religion. Now every adult (of course, Hindu) strongly believes that these Christian organization should be stopped....... in any possible way. Media will print what people want. And I am sure, in some time Indian media will more openly reflect the people's view more than what the pseudo secular politicians opine......call it the Market force.

communal strifeBy: Adi Shankar | Tuesday , 14 Oct '08 5:57:53 AM Reply | Forward Peculiarities,superstitions,un-scientific beliefs,aberrations,etc. are aplenty in any religion. With modern education and amalgamation of various societies majority are changing their mindset but religious fundamentalists, who have a vested control over places of worship etc stoke communal fires. If an analysis of the scriptures of all religions is dispassionately made, we will come across beliefs and admonitions repugnant to civilised society whatever the original intentions and times in which context they were laid. Religion is not personal but faith is. Glossing over of faith by religion is the root cause for present turmoil in India. If we publish books detailing the aberrations or beliefs of other religions, there can only be mayhem. Religious denominations should ponder on this. I feel the cause for the present turmoil is the sudden aggressive moves to swell numbers and the resultant reaction. Economic disparities add to the woes.

Secularists' Support Religious Exclusivism Will Cost Them Heavily!!By: Kumar | Tuesday , 14 Oct '08 5:36:35 AM Reply | Forward It is sad that Secularists are drifting away from Hindu positions so swiftly and surely that they may find themselves in a point of no return situation so soon that they may lose out on the broader political arena. With regard to Orissa, the crux of the matter was explained by the leader of killer gang himself - that reconversions are not acceptable to Christians and therefore Swami Laxmanananda Saraswati was murdered. If reconversoins are not acceptable to Christians, then conversions are absolutely not acceptable to Hindus! In the case of Karnataka, the Central government behaves as if the offensive publications never existed, and there was no cause for communal disturbance !!While Hindus see a sustained and organized campaign to convert as a menace to spiritual freedom and liberty. Secularists better realize this and not dismiss it under the VHP/BD brand. If the Secularists do not heed to sane advice and take right action, they will lose in the next elections!!

Good for Yeddy!By: Sana | Tuesday , 14 Oct '08 4:34:56 AM Reply | Forward Whenever anybody does or says anything that hurts the sentiments of the minority then there is always someone taking notice. It is sad that things have to come to this before anyone takes notice of the conversions that have happened. The most basic question is still the same, if everyone believes in One God then why should anyone be converted forcefully? In India it is a sin to stand up for being a hindu. The chief minister here is calling a spade a spade. There are good Christians, just as there are good Muslims and good Hindus. But all self respecting people will stand up for their own religion if it is questioned. It cannot be right for one person and wrong for another. Our hindu religion may have its loop holes and have the stupid caste system but because it has been so tolerant there have been people from so many religions in India today. The minorities does not have to convert the whole country to their religion. We can all co exist , but give respect to all religions.

cunning gamesBy: sushil | Tuesday , 14 Oct '08 11:31:54 AM Reply | Forward Please note India was tolerant country because bramins or the upper caste are not the Majority community. Now they are emotionally black mailing the lower caste hindus and pitching them aginst christians and mulims and watching the fun.

Very cuning on your part indeedBy: Rajesh | Tuesday , 14 Oct '08 15:20:31 PM Reply | Forward Interesting analysis. Your name should be recommended for a noble prize for such a noble and innovative idea. Ignorance is blissfull. Isn't it? You proved it right? Another noble prize for the same. Or are you trying to be cunning and putting the blame on others? In that case, it was a superb attemp. A third noble prize for the noble endeavour.

very cunning indeedBy: Dayala Dev | Friday , 17 Oct '08 22:12:16 PM Reply | Forward You have nothing to respond but only the upper caste venom. What few upper castes under the banner of Hindutuva play is only only caste politics.

Donot forget the historyBy: Joby | Tuesday , 14 Oct '08 2:38:06 AM Reply | Forward Dear IndiansRelgion is a very dreadful subject. It more dreadful if you mix relgion with politics. What happend like said is a book which wrote articles which hurted teh sentiments of another religion, which apparently very wrong. But is voilence a remedy to this. I am a pround Indian who is a Indian first then comes all after.So political peple for the need of votes play dirty tricks to unstable and divide teh votes. Did you all forget why Brtish ruled us 250 years. If forget the history then the time will teach you the history. SO DONOT FALL TO CHEAP TRAPS THAT DISTURBS OUR HARMONY.

Weak BJP leadershipBy: Jacob | Tuesday , 14 Oct '08 0:37:11 AM Reply | Forward Weak BJP leadershipFanatical Hindu organisations are luring gullible people for their violent activities . As what happened in Islam where violent organisations have taken over the leadership over moderate elements, the same history is repeating in Hinduism. When Vajpayee was in full control the moderate elements of BJP had the upper hand and BJP became popular. But now with the leadership of Hindu fanatical organisations taking over, BJP is is singing the same tune as them and their violent elements are having a field day.There seems to be no real strong leadership in BJP which can give it a national character.

Gobbellsian PhilosophyBy: Ronald | Tuesday , 14 Oct '08 0:20:57 AM Reply | Forward Yeddy's Karnataka is a special case. All other states did not have the following conditions. In Karnataka there was joint operations between the Police and Bajrang Dal in attacking Kulshekara church and caning praying innocent women and children for a few guilty stone throwers. It brought to mind the Nazi Philosophy of Heydrich Reinhard Reichsprotektor (Reich Protector) 'It is better to hang a hundred too many innocent men than to allow one guilty too few to get away'. There are video clips to this effect on the net. Secondly Conversions are repeated Gobbellsian like several times but no cases recorded in police stations or courts of law (real or imagined) to prove him right. Thirdly assuming 'Satya Darshini' did not come out of the sangh parivar press, does not this government have a potent police force or courts of law to deal with this situation? Why are we creating jobs for the uneducated and unemployed to put their skills to use instead of the porcesses of law taking due course?

Hindus in IndiaBy: Saccha Gujarati | Tuesday , 14 Oct '08 0:01:16 AM Reply | Forward See it is very clear, no hindus will accept that the parties they are supporting are killing innocents, this will destroy their ground of defending their religion. Only thing, they are missing that religion is not above human life. Hindus has problem with everyone in India, they killed thousand of shiks in 1984, they killed thousand of muslims in 2002 gujrat roits and now they are behind christians, and then they claim that their religion is a peace loving religion. Please cut the crap for now. I will not be surprise to see a christians terror group in near future. when you will feel the brunt of the heat, that time even you will find the value of innocent lives. I pray god to give some brain to astrayed hindus. Jai Hind

Reply to Sachcha GujaratiBy: Sumanyu | Tuesday , 14 Oct '08 11:18:04 AM Reply | Forward Yo are surely a wolf in sheeps clothing. If you wish to become a Mahatma then who is stopping you ? Bloody pseudosecularists. Ghar ka Bhedi. Jis thali mein khat ho usi mein ched karte ho. Shame on you.

HINDUS IN INDIABy: N.V.SANKARAN | Friday , 17 Oct '08 17:39:13 PM Reply | Forward Who is this "Saccha Gujarati" trying to fool? Does he not know that in 1984 delhi riots, the Sikhs were killed not by the BJP, RSS, VHP, Bajrang Dal or any other Hindu organizations, but by the members or supporters of the "secular" congress party? Gujarat riots of 2002 would not have taken place if Islamic radicals had not burned 58 Kar Sevaks in Godhra.

HINDUS IN INDIABy: N.V.SANKARAN | Friday , 17 Oct '08 17:22:29 PM Reply | Forward Who is this "Saccha Gujarati" trying to fool? Does he not know that in 1984 delhi riots, the Sikhs were killed not by the BJP, RSS, VHP, Bajrang Dal or any other Hindu organizations, but by the members or supporters of the "secular" congress party? Gujarat riots of 2002 would not have taken place if Islamic radicals had not burned 58 Kar Sevaks in Godhra.

Cry wolf on conversionBy: undefined | Monday , 13 Oct '08 23:32:11 PM Reply | Forward I feel this chief minister has gone nuts!,he needs to get his acts together and control the hooligans who take law in their own hands. There are provisins and procedures within a democracy to address issues. No by burning churches and creating mahem. Are you willing to do the charity work for the dhalits and the downtrodden. No you can't you have a cast problem, its beyond your dignity in a way. Done misuse your power to beat up and burn the poorest of the poor, their blood will be on you and your children.

The deligates such as Oscar Farnandus and thousands of catholics basically went to Vatican to complain! By: KMR Overseas | Monday , 13 Oct '08 23:19:15 PM Reply | Forward As usual they lie to Pope, paint a different picture about life of Indian christians in western media, stage a self-victimhood drama and come back with vengeance with Popes blessings.Following EVIL gang members are not only terror associates but also behind any communal viloence, christian conversions in Mangalore region!!-Veerappa Moily -Janardhan Poojari -Arrack(T)John -Oscar Fernandus-Margaret Alva

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