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Dalits facing caste discrimination in UK: study

London: Thousands of people of Indian origin, 71 per cent of whom were Dalits, face caste discrimination in Britain, says a new report, leading to demands in the country for making it illegal. The report, titled "Voice of the Community -- A Study into Caste and Caste Discrimination in the UK", says tha  ....Read more

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Be sure of your own tradition and rootsBy: Jayadevan | Tuesday , 24 Nov '09 0:10:34 AM Reply | Forward Poor Macaulay never said anything like that. What you are (mis)quoting is a hoax making the rounds of the internet. It starts saying " I have traveled across the length and breadth of India and I have not seen one person who is a beggar, who is a thief" and goes on like this. It is a good habit to check the provenance of things before you start using them. The fact remains that even if we accept that he had indeed said such a thing, we would need to get him examined by a competent opthalmologist. Oh, and also check his own competence: the Thuggee and Dacoity Department was set up in 1835, the very same year as this "famed minute" and if he was that weak in general knowledge, only God could save the King. The words "thug" and "dacoit" are Indian contributions to English. Even our ancient scriptures talk about crime and punishment; and beggars.
Dalit discriminationBy: Hero Vaz | Sunday , 15 Nov '09 6:39:00 AM Reply | Forward The dalits in the UK should convert to Christianity. That should end their problem. There are no stupid anti-conversion laws in the UK.
Caste Prejuidice Has More Than Nuisance ValueBy: khandu patel | Sunday , 15 Nov '09 5:41:44 AM Reply | Forward British discrimination law is directed mostly at the ills of discrimination practised by the British themselves. On this the legal system is able to comprehend and make judgements. The word caste itself is inappropriate because as far back as one goes back in Bharat's history, there was little evidence of any such discrimination based on caste. The discrimination that is referred to is actually jati type. The British during their rule of India vested sovereignty in the jati as they provided the governing and regulating body for their tribe. Though India has gained independence and sovereignty vested in the people, the manner in which jati antagonism is kept on the political boil hardly signals any change at all. India is going to shoot itself on the foot by its aiding and abetting of jati discrimination in its politics. It is likely to become a pariah among nations that practices discrimination.
caste discrimination in britainBy: n.srinivasan | Friday , 13 Nov '09 13:42:11 PM Reply | Forward i) The Story is a fiction - and some one with like an axe to grind - like conversion promotion, jealousy of indians doing well abraod et- is trying to build a negative image about indians 2) If any caste system is practiced it is mostly in the church - where you have seperate pews for dalits or worse seperate church for different denominations
Be sure of your own tradition and rootsBy: Jayadevan | Friday , 13 Nov '09 13:13:29 PM Reply | Forward Poor Macaulay never said anything like that. What you are (mis)quoting is a hoax making the rounds of the internet. It starts saying " I have traveled across the length and breadth of India and I have not seen one person who is a beggar, who is a thief" and goes on like this. It is a good habit to check the provenance of things before you start using them. The fact remains that even if we accept that he had indeed said such a thing, we would need to get him examined by a competent opthalmologist. Oh, and also check his own competence: the Thuggee and Dacoity Department was set up in 1835, the very same year as this "famed minute" and if he was that weak in general knowledge, only God could save the King. The words "thug" and "dacoit" are Indian contributions to English. Even our ancient scriptures talk about crime and punishment; and beggars.
I have continued what ever you have swallowedBy: Indian | Friday , 13 Nov '09 16:37:34 PM Reply | Forward "I have travelled across the length and breadth of India and I have not seen one person who is a beggar,who is a thief.Such wealth I have seen in this country,such high moral values, people of such calibre,that I do not think we would ever conquer this country,unless we break the very backbone of this nation,which is her spiritual and cultural heritage,and, therefore,I propose that we replace her old and ancient education system, her culture,for if the Indians think that all that is foreign and English is good and greater than their own, they will lose their self-esteem, their native culture and they will become what we want them, a truly dominated nation."
Word mother from MaBy: Indian | Friday , 13 Nov '09 16:32:41 PM Reply | Forward There is no end to the list of indian contributions let it be any field.Do remember even letter Mother is from Sanskrit word Ma.Get the proof of any language older than sanskrit & then come to discuss here.
Beyond your understanding By: Indian | Friday , 13 Nov '09 16:26:16 PM Reply | Forward Just claiming he didnt make such statements highlights your ignorance.Its just not Macaulay infact many dignified,intellectuals have given credit & praised Indian culture which is beyond your understanding
We have to face the mirror with honestyBy: Jayadevan | Tuesday , 24 Nov '09 6:10:19 AM Reply | Forward All these fulminations do not make your quote any less of a fabrication. What I said was that there is so much rubbish floating around that you need to check stuff before you sue it. Caveat emptor! And, the moment you accept the quote as something other than a fanciful fabrication, you have to accept that the poor man was judgement-impaired and his opinion needs to be seen as just that - pure garbage. This has nothing to do with the positive contributions India made. But you would probably want me to believe that we invented paper and gunpowder, too. Coming back to the issue of caste, have you wondered why India is opposing a UNHCR draft resolution which proposes to equate all discrimination on the basis of caste, occupation or descent as a violation of human rights, while the only Hindu nation in the world, Nepal is supporting the resolution? A defect is nothing to be ashamed of - but if we keep on hiding it, it will never get cured.
We have to face the mirror with honestyBy: Jayadevan | Sunday , 15 Nov '09 15:00:23 PM Reply | Forward All these fulminations do not make your quote any less of a fabrication. What I said was that there is so much rubbish floating around that you need to check stuff before you sue it. Caveat emptor! And, the moment you accept the quote as something other than a fanciful fabrication, you have to accept that the poor man was judgement-impaired and his opinion needs to be seen as just that - pure garbage. This has nothing to do with the positive contributions India made. But you would probably want me to believe that we invented paper and gunpowder, too. Coming back to the issue of caste, have you wondered why India is opposing a UNHCR draft resolution which proposes to equate all discrimination on the basis of caste, occupation or descent as a violation of human rights, while the only Hindu nation in the world, Nepal is supporting the resolution? A defect is nothing to be ashamed of - but if we keep on hiding it, it will never get cured.
Its the hands of dirty politicans,why to blame religion By: Indian | Monday , 16 Nov '09 14:02:20 PM Reply | Forward So why is UNHCR draft resolution is being opposed by our nation?Simple its the hands of dirty politicans.Religion has no hand in this & why to blame nation or its culture for the same?Will you accept islam preaches terrorism?Infact n religion preaches viloence.
foreigners find richness in our nation By: Indian | Monday , 16 Nov '09 13:58:24 PM Reply | Forward Indians like you can only see negatives in your own nation & other foreigners find richness in it
caste discrimination in britainBy: saptha | Thursday , 12 Nov '09 21:30:29 PM Reply | Forward I am amazed by this report because caste discrimination can occur in britain only when that question is asked. i do not see in which context a person's caste is questioned? Also i do not believe that british born asians are so petty minded. This discrimination is imported from india, like the imported indian professionals who enter britain to work and live here. They bring their prejudices into this country and corrupt everyone.
Ground work for caste reservation in UKBy: Pravasi | Thursday , 12 Nov '09 18:59:36 PM Reply | Forward This is absolute nonsense. I don't think anybody will understand the hierarchy of thousands of castes from diifferent states of India here. Apparently this is a ground work being prepared for seeking caste based reservations like in India where generations of wealthy 'backward' professionals short cut into coveted career positions without doing hard work.
Old habits die hard!By: Sunil Kumar | Thursday , 12 Nov '09 18:42:58 PM Reply | Forward When a person migrates to a nation abroad,he invariably carries with him the prejudices of his mind.The study about caste discrimination in UK highlights this aspect.When the Indian government sidesteps in drawing similarities between caste discrimination of India and racism of the west at the international fora,it should also suggest the remedy for caste discrimination which is being slowly transported to the rest of the world from India.The ill remains the single most shameful feature of our society.
Quotas are the need of hour in UK for Dalit Christians Muslims OBCBy: edwina Mountbaton | Thursday , 12 Nov '09 17:41:36 PM Reply | Forward Well done Brits. It is now time for you to implement 79% quota for SC and OBC, including those from Dalit Christians and Dalit Muslims. It is also necessary to erect Mayawatie statues at all road corssings and make Lallu the railway minister of UK.
Hinduism is a way of life and not a religion By: Indian | Thursday , 12 Nov '09 17:08:54 PM Reply | Forward Hinduism is a way of life and not a religion and frankly one of the best.However if you consider it to be a religion,like all religions,it has its downfalls. Lord Mecaulay had said "India's strength lies in its cultural heritage and to beat them, we have to systematically destroy that heritage." Sadly, the Hindus educated in the western system have been successfully brainwashed against anything Hindu and they pride in their ignorance of their roots
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