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Fatwa against 'Vande Mataram' cannot be withdrawn: Darul Uloom

Muzaffarnagar: Days after a top Muslim body passed a resolution asking the community members not to recite 'Vande Mataram', a prominent Islamic organisation which had issued 'fatwa' against the national song in 2006, on Monday said the edict cannot be withdrawn. The fatwa department of Darul Uloom had issued ....Read more

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You guys need to cool downBy: Kareem | Saturday , 21 Nov '09 13:43:49 PM Reply | Forward The reason muslims cannot sing vandemataram is because it contains phrases which go against Islam's core tenet - ie. 'There is no God but Allah and Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah'. Muslims are not forcing Hindus or Christians to leave their religions, then why are the commentators here asking Muslims to abandon their religion? Muslims, Hindus, Christians, Sikhs, Buddhists etc. have been living in India for centuries, thats not going to change. So let us try to forgive and forget and live amicably going forward. We don't have to agree with each other's beliefs but we can respect one another by allowing freedom to believe and practice one's religions.

Fatwa against VM by Darul Ulum.By: Pritam Surti | Monday , 16 Nov '09 2:59:32 AM Reply | Forward Mr. Sankaran, I am a Hindu by choice and not by chance. I worship Bhagwan without any idol. Can I ask you one question? Why do you need an idol to reach out to Bhagwan? Do Hindus like you are week in concentration? You need an idol or idols to concentrate your devotion? Are you so weak? Why have Hindus started worshipping Avtaars instead of real God? Pritam Surti, Toronto, Canada.

FATWA AGAINST VANDE MATARAM.By: skulkarni | Wednesday , 11 Nov '09 1:59:58 AM Reply | Forward For Hindus "JANANI JANMABHUMISTU SWARGADAPI GARIYASE" MEANING MOTHER AND MOTHERLAND ARE MORE SACRED THAN GOING TO GOD OR HEAVAN.HOW TRUE!THE HINDUS NEVER WENT OUT AND CAPTURED OTHER'S LAND.HINDUS HAVE LOST A LOT OF LAND OR ANYTHING.THAT IS WHY THE MOTHERLAND IS SO SACRED. THE PEOPLE HAVE NO REPECT FOR THE LAND BECAUSE IT WAS STOLLEN FROM US.ANYTHING FREE HAS NO VALUE.PEOPLE WHO HAVE NOMADIC LIFE STYLE,MOVING FROM LAND TO LAND,OBVIOUSLY CANNOT HAVE LOYALTY TO THE MOTHER LAND,BECAUSE FOR THEM IT IS JUST A LAND FOR PLUNDERING.HISTORY IS FULL OF MURDERS OF SONS ,FATHERS,BROTHERS AND MOTHERS.WHY? FOR LAND,WEALTH AND POWER. ASK PALESTINIANS OR WHOSOEVER IS DISPLACED FROM THEIR MOTHER LAND AND THE PAIN.WHY THEY WANT MOTHER LAND.

Fatwa against 'Vande Mataram' cannot be withdrawn: Darul UloomBy: Ratan Gupta | Wednesday , 11 Nov '09 0:41:19 AM Reply | Forward If Hindus take some time to read their religious scriptures like Vedanta and other books, they will reject Vandemataram as well. Hindu scriptures clearly preaches us to worship one God. We Hindus later on invented our idols. Muslims did not. I went to a church, I saw the idol of Jesus. When I went a Mosque, I did not find any idol. Vandemataram is idol worhipping. Neither it is a national song nor it has to do with true Hinduism of worshipping one God. We Hindus are ignorant and undeducated on the subject. Idol worshipping is not allowed in our religion. I have immense respect for Muslims that they do not worship idols in the Mosques. We need to improve our knowledge of other religions. Reciting or not reciting Vandemataram does not have any national implications at all. Stop nonsense. It has become fashion to attack Muslims on any subject.

Fatwa against 'Vande Mataram' cannot be withdrawn: Darul UloomBy: N.V.SANKARAN | Saturday , 14 Nov '09 12:31:56 PM Reply | Forward Mr. Ratan Gupta, You appear to have only very superficial knowledge about Hinduism and the contents of Hindu scriptures. No Hindu considers Idols as Gods. They only use the idols as media to reach out to God. Otherwise, Hindus would start worshiping even those statues which are kept in the shops for sale. A very simple analogy of worshiping one God in different forms is similar to the manner in which you experience electricity in the form of light, heat, sound or just vibration. Just like Hindus use idols as media to pray to God, the Muslims also do need some symbols and that is why they go to mosques and perform Huj in Mecca. The purpose is the same-use some kind of media to reach out to God who is omnipresent, which means that He is present in everything-living, non-living and even nothingness. Please try to understand Hinduism first before making such comments. It would be better if you visited the official web-site of Indian Institute of Scientific Heritage and read some of the literature they publish.

atwa against 'Vande Mataram' cannot be withdrawn: Darul UloomBy: Mateeb | Friday , 20 Nov '09 19:43:09 PM Reply | Forward Dear Mr. SAnkaran, would u kindly explain me that how a muslim becomes an idol worshiper or a worshiper of god through a media (as u say) just by visiting mosques and performing Haj in Mecca. please answer if u have adequate knowledge. i will respond according to your comment..

MoolahBy: RS | Tuesday , 10 Nov '09 23:12:50 PM Reply | Forward JOOTE TO MARO IN HARAMJADO KO TUB SAMAJ ME AAYE YA.

2nd Quit IndiaBy: Indian | Tuesday , 10 Nov '09 23:08:46 PM Reply | Forward With the vote bank politics parties it is time to start quit India movement by the masses that is the only way we can get these fanatics to line to accept the country's laws.Boycot their businesses,their enterprises,films etc etc peacefully.Then only they will understand to live peacefully with the other population. Jaihind

Disrespecting mother or mother land can not be in the tenet of any religionBy: Karunakaran | Tuesday , 10 Nov '09 16:32:53 PM Reply | Forward Any religion such demanding as to disrespect one's mother or motherland is all bullshit. The agents of religion are the worst ignorants. Why do I feel good that this row has started to enable us to flush the real infidels out of our country...?

Disrespecting mother is NOT the tenet of IslamBy: p.a.mohamed ameen | Tuesday , 10 Nov '09 20:11:41 PM Reply | Forward Karunakaran: You are absolutely right. Disrespecting one's mother is against all religions, but Islam teaches to respect one's mother but ask the followers not to make her as a GODDESS and worship her, because the only Being eligible for worship id the CREATOR, THE GOD ALMIGHTY, THE ISHWAR, you do not understand the difference between RESPECT and WORSHIP.I quote the exact words of the QURAN. YOUR LORD HAS DECREED THAT YOU WORSHIP NO ONE BUT HIM, AND YOU BE KIND TO PARENTS. WHETHER ONE OR BOTH ATTAIN OLD AGE, DO NOT SAY A WORD OF CONTEMPT, DO NOT REPEL THEM BUT ADDRESS THEM IN TERMS OF HONOUR" Chapter Number 27: Verse Number 23 Look at the beauty of the teachings of the Quran and how much respect God wants Muslims to show to their parents. But they can never be made into idols and kept in temples and be worshipped. That is the biggest sin in Islam

MrBy: Z _B_M | Tuesday , 10 Nov '09 14:19:52 PM Reply | Forward Vande Mataram as equivalent to Lord%u2019s Prayer to both Hindus and non Hindus %u201CO Mothers (Goddesses) I Bow to thee or I salute thee ignoring Male gender or Male Hindu Gods (i.e. Ram, Krishna, Hanuman, and Vishnu) seem wrong Prayer or wrong song At the wrong situation. A fatwa is a religious Opinion concerning Islamic Quran believed to have been heavenly due to its contents surahs (as if beyond Human capability in its make up).God always existed before even creation of Universe and its content including Human and mysterious Quran edict forbidding not bowing to those who had been also Created as equal to creator. Fatwa is an opinion not binding .Opinion cannot be withdrawn as Hindus would not stop discriminating even to own Male Gods in this Vande Mataram song as others being forced to utter;%u201D Mothers or Goddesses I bow to Thee or I salute to thee %u201DSeem too much of a force equivalent to Lord%u2019s prayer .This even if it does not attack real God (not comparable to those perceived ones).

Vande Mataram By: PKDutta | Tuesday , 10 Nov '09 11:44:26 AM Reply | Forward What about Late Naushad and Momammed Rafi composing and singing "Hari Om.." etc. in Films?

Respect vs. WorshipBy: Rafeeq | Tuesday , 10 Nov '09 11:25:45 AM Reply | Forward Vande Mataram is translated in general as "Bow (or Bowing) to Mother (Mother land)". Some say it means "Salute to Mother (Motherland)". In principle according to authentic religious books (The Vedas, The Bible, The Quran, etc.) in most of the religion bowing to anyone other than the Creator is considered to be wrong. But one would agree that Saluting is fine. One should understand the difference between worship and respect. If one says he does not worship something, does never mean that one is not respecting. Above all, don't we realize that we are giving too much attention to a subject that is unnecessarily started by someone and promoted by someone. I think we have more important issues in our Country and our society to think, discuss and work upon. Its these fanatics who irk this kind of problem for their egos and personal benefits. God Bless our County and our People. I love my country and my people. Love you all.

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