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Wednesday, December 9, 1998

"Shiv Sena is destroying the nation's personality"

 
The elder statesman of the film industry, Dilip Kumar, was in the Capital for just two days, but going by his meetings, anyone would have thought he was a head of State. In reality, though, the 76-year-old actor was playing general, orchestrating the campaign to bring Deepa Mehta's Fire back to theatres. On Monday, along with Mehta, Mahesh Bhatt, Javed Akhtar and journalist Teesta Setalvad, he filed a petition in the Supreme Court. The petition, as he explains patiently, is not just about the movie. For Dilipsaab, it is a do-or-die battle for the secular fabric of his country and for its citizens' freedom of expression.

But even in the thick of strategising, he didn't forget his impeccable manners. Dressed impeccably in a dark jacket and grey trousers, he took time out from a late dinner to talk at length on why the Shiv Sena made him so angry. Between his interminable pauses, he said that before he could answer each question, ``I have to overcome this wave of anger and then I think how torespond in a civil manner while discussing the lawless acts of the Shiv Sena''.

He was joined by comrade-in-arms Mahesh Bhatt and advocate Musharraf Chaudhary, who occasionally interrupted to add that Dilipsaab had broken with the film industry opinion to go to court on the menace of violence against art, instead of appealing to Bal Thackeray. ``No one has the guts to take on Thackeray in Mumbai,'' said Bhatt loudly, as Chaudhuri nodded. ``But I hope Fire will provoke the silent majority to rise in dissent.''

SONIA TRIKHA caught up with Bhatt and the very energetic septuagenarian on the steps of the India International Centre and listened to the famous voice rising in anguish and despair. Excerpts:

  • What motivated you to be a part of the petition that has been lodged in the Supreme Court?

    The silly and high-handed behaviour of these people, the Shiv Sena. Their acts of violence and lawlessness.

  • But why did you not appeal to the Government to takeaction?

    How can you appeal to the Government, when the Chief Minister (Manohar Joshi) is himself encouraging the acts of violence? The keeper of the law in the state is sanctifying lawlessness by congratulating the miscreants. He actually patted these people who broke into the cinema halls and violently stopped the screening of Fire. Now it is for the people who see such acts broadcast on the media to judge for themselves the ineffectiveness of the Government and their role in the violence. And it is for the courts to evaluate the miscreants.

  • Your petition has been filed under Sections 19 (A) and 21 which raise the question of constitutional rights and does not limit itself to the question of attacks against Fire.

    That is because we are not fighting for one film alone. Fire has highlighted the problem that exists in all areas. There are other films that have suffered, there are plays that are not allowed to be staged. Books are banned arbitrarily, (M.F.) Husain'spaintings were vandalised. There was also the problem with hosting a cricket match with Pakistan recently. There is no stopping the Shiv Sena from engineering these vicious practices. The attacks on Fire were premeditated attempts to throttle the creative media and the creativity of the artistes.

  • Is your objection against the Sena restricted to their inciting acts of violence?

    No. It is to this whole culture of `thought police'. Everyone must have the right to express themselves the way they choose. And those who do not like it can disagree with it. But what the Shiv Sena has done is that only what they agree with can be portrayed, nothing else. Any form of protest is stifled by threats of violence, people are beaten up, property is vandalised. All this is stifling creativity. No one can predict how they will react to any creative expression.

  • Considering the incidents in Delhi, do you think the cultural emergency is also spreading to other parts of the country?

    It is notjust the question of cultural emergency, these people are destroying the personality of the nation. That is what is worrying me the most. They are injecting the venom of separatism into the nation's fabric. That is what concerns and angers me. They are affecting public opinion by threatening violence. For how long can this state of affairs be allowed to last?

    Copyright © 1998 Indian Express Newspapers (Bombay) Ltd.


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