jodhpur .
by Deepak on 2008-10-02 21:38:32.462648+05:30
pls read dis
Jodhpur temple stampede
by Pinak Kemkar on 2008-10-01 17:36:21.5076+05:30
It is sorry state of affairs that inspite of similar incidents in different states the administrators are not learning from past. we ultimately leave it as a wish of god and forget.
DEPRESSING
by SHEREEN on 2008-10-01 14:10:46.137605+05:30
it is really depressing to find out that stampedes still occur, we go to worship why is there death tolls at the end of the day. we all are there for the same reason. we need peace and harmony not deaths.
May the best manage the temples
by Som Karamchetty, PHD on 2008-10-01 06:56:40.507547+05:30
It is tragic and a shame that such stampedes take place at religious places. The best solution is to get the government out of managing temples and other religious places and events. Government officials treat pilgrims as animals and move them in constricted pens. In the case of a temple in the South, when I pointed out a potential problem, they passed the buck on. Let the affairs of temples and festivals be handled by independent trusts with accountability and transparency. I understand that both Shirdi and Satya Sai Baba trusts make excellent arrangements. Tirumala Tirupathi Devasthanam is very rich and has advanced technological systems. State Governments may focus on law and order on the periphery of the temple (Gurdwara, church, and mosque) towns. I hope BJP and other religiously inclined parties join together and get the governments out of religious duties.
Stampede
by Aniket Khomeni on 2008-10-01 06:32:10.538221+05:30
This is be conspiracy to kill hindus by christian missionary. All minorities must be to leave India. Then peace to come. Jai Shri Ram
Innocent lives could have been saved by education.
by Sureshwar on 2008-10-01 02:46:12.290498+05:30
Only with discipline and patience that we can avoid such catastrophies. It is really hard for the families to absorb such losses. Unfortunately, pushing, rushing, elbowing has become our national character instead of dignified values. Perhaps all religious places should start teaching their importance to save the lives of devotees.
Blame not Centre
by Pema on 2008-10-01 01:53:15.746746+05:30
One cannot blame the New Delhi for every mishap. Its the state government (Police and civil administration) and temple authority to control the crowd. Its also the responsibility of the devotees and public to be in queue and not try to jump ahead of others.
Safety First
by A Lalprasad on 2008-09-30 23:36:43.640016+05:30
Organizers should take better safety steps during gathering of the heavy crowds. People also should learn to stay in line rathar than rushing to exit.
Criminal negligence?
by Dnyanesh on 2008-09-30 23:33:47.344272+05:30
There is nothing that we can do to address this simple issue?1. Can we not have a floor made up of special (porous) material with rough surface so people will not slip? Have some better drainage system there?2. Can we not have queues for this activity?3. Can govt body not inspect these locations every year to see if they are taking precautionary measures? Taking responsibility after such incident can not bring back to priceless lives lost. When can we take actions on such issues?4. Can we not make sure that these locations have adequate space to accomodate these many people?5. Can we not learn and act from our past experiences?
Stampedes can be avoided
by Eddy on 2008-09-30 22:40:55.139737+05:30
This incident shows the lack of discipline among Indians and all other South Asians. If there is such a rush at a temple (or even a rock concert for that matter) people should form Qs and the temple should hire a crowd management consultant. Only if the line keeps on moving in a disciplined manner can stampedes be avoided. Otherwise as population increases, crowds increase and herd mentality prevails, and a single shout of fire or bomb can lead to a stampede and tragedy.
Implement POTA
by rick on 2008-09-30 21:46:25.1466+05:30
why cannot pota be implemented on the govt and temple management who is responsible for killing innocent people in stampade.hundered people die due human error in accidents and many more reason.why cannot govt take it as accountable. giving ex-gratia 2 lakhs is it going to solve the problem
It is really Sad
by sandeep on 2008-09-30 21:14:19.527637+05:30
Festival season is round the corner and every weekend you are having blasts in India. Now on top of that stampades are happening. Till certain extent government can do some thing for it, but I belive its people whose mindset needs to be changed. Every devotee including me thinks, aaj to bhagwan ko pakad lo. I have been to different famous religious places, but everywhere its the same scene. I think thats what is circle of life. Some people will come into world, but some other existing in here need to make way for there entry.
Why blame govt for it? It is discipline!
by Jojo on 2008-09-30 20:50:22.023825+05:30
Agree with Pasupathy. It is a matter of public discipline. No point blaming the govt, the authorities. The reported incident clearly shows that line was breached. Come on, a few undisciplined idiots caused this havoc. And such incidences keep happening because of undisciplined behavior of a few. There is always someone wanting to go ahead, drive on the wrong side, cross the line. And this gets multiplied then causing the havoc. The problem is, the number of people is so high that even 1% bad apples is a lot!
Lesson for extremists
by Indian on 2008-09-30 20:02:07.038309+05:30
Why don't the Goons from Bajrang Dal/VHP/Shiv Sena do something constructive by managing the devotees crowd who are going for worship..instead of their normal daily routine of spreading hatred....
Crowd management ideas
by Blue Planet on 2008-09-30 19:36:52.177114+05:30
This is very sad. Apart from people being jittery from recent acts of terrorism, there definitely is something temples and local administration can do to streamline the crowds during popular festivals. e.g. (a) installation of CCTV and TV monitors so people can watch the worship from far(b) Scheduling more time slots for the poojas(c) Providing opportunities for worship at other locations in the temple complex (d) Educating the locals (preferably by means of a popular religious leader / Swamiji) on the dangers of overcrowding and encouraging them to use the options that help reduce overcrowding
natural
by reader on 2008-09-30 19:29:58.003227+05:30
this is quite natural for hindus in India. They have no concern for the other human beings and will act in such a way that they r superior to everyone. While some enjoy the fruits of recent liberalization the majority needs help from christian missionaries or loan from christian countries to be fed a meal ! Their further pride will make them fall much deeper. So much arrogant people and so much castism and seperatist ideologies u wont find anywhere in the world. They are proud of their civilzation but theirs is a civilization which is outdated !
punishment postings fro DM
by subhabrata123 on 2008-09-30 19:29:33.40978+05:30
The District Magistrate, Superintendent of Police should be demoted at least 3 post from their current postings. Moreover they should be posted in an advance area.
BJP must answer the devout!
by R. S. Sekhon on 2008-09-30 18:12:11.537247+05:30
The BJP had recently cried bloody murder over the conducting of the Amarnath Yatra even though the Yatra had concluded without any mishap. Now that they have 145 Hindu pilgrims killed in a stampede for want of proper safety measures and another 55 of them injured on their way to a Jodhpur temple, in a State ruled by their party --- the public would want to know what wretched excuses they have to explain away the utter neglect of the state government in ensuring the safety of the devout , especially the tragedy following on the close heels of a similar one in HP, a State ruled by them as well, in which 147 believers were killed. Ram, whose name the BJP so often shamelessly invokes in display of hypocritical self-righteousness every minute, is not going to let them go unpunished this time for all their cumulative sins. The BJP sounds so hollow in all that it professes and stand for, that people are now beginning to reject their bluff outright!
UPA government has neglected Hindu pilgrimages
by Bharat on 2008-09-30 16:38:46.902667+05:30
It is a national shame that UPA government has neglected Hindu pilgrimage places. The facts of various incidents from last 5 years are:August 27, 2003: 39 pilgrims killed, 125 injured when faithfuls who were waiting to bathe surged over a flimsy fence triggering a stampede at Kumbh Mela bathing festival in Nasik, Maharashtra.January 25, 2005: 340 devotees trampled to death during an annual pilgrimage at Mandhra Devi temple in Maharashtra.March 7, 2006: 28 killed and 101 injured in two bombings across Varanasi. First blast at a Varanasi temple followed by another at Varanasi Cantonment Railway Station crowded with pilgrims.August 3, 2008: 162 dead while 47 are injured in a stampede triggered by rumours of a rockslide at Naina Devi Temple in Himachal Pradesh.August 10, 2008: Two pilgrims died when over 250 people were left stranded on stairs leading to ancient Mahadeva temple in Kota district of north-western Rajasthan collapsed.Is there a government for Hindu majority?
Blame the State Government
by G on 2008-09-30 19:29:13.03481+05:30
Here go again, all faults to UPA government, something happens to your family blame UPA, there is problem in your house plumbing blame UPA, Why everybody is blaming UPA government, for the state irresponsibility. Come on Bharat, because the state is ruled by the BJP, doesn't give authority to the blame on Central. I doubt you are partial.
stampede
by wanufel on 2008-09-30 16:26:07.977369+05:30
I am a european from Belgium and I agree with Ramesh Kumar. We don't have to give " lessons" to any other in the world. Let to everyone and every people his singularity. Love India and Indians
A major stampede occurred in Chamunda Devi temple at start of Navaratra festival in Jodhpur.
