• But in terms of what’s happening in your city and country, what makes you happy?

There are no happy incidents, only blasts and murders. Bangladeshi Muslims pouring in. Pakistanis wreaking havoc. How can you feel happy?

• But there is 9 per cent growth. Infrastructure is being built. Indian companies are buying firms overseas.

See, I don’t see anything to be happy about. It’s a horrible situation. It’s (India is) sinking.

• The whole world is celebrating the rise of India...

But we should be ashamed of the fact that while they are praising us, we are doing nothing about the plight of the country. Corruption is so rampant.

• But sir, many people will smirk when they hear the Sena chief say so because the Sena doesn’t have the cleanest reputation — in government or the party.

But it’s much better than any other party. If an individual takes money in the name of Shiv Sena, what can I do, unless he is caught taking money and brought before me?

• But you also need money for the party.

I do.

• Where does that come from?

That comes from some good friends. Maybe (industry/business) magnates. They give if they wish to, but we don’t force anybody.

• Then, why did you remove Suresh Prabhu? We in Delhi believe that you removed him because he was not producing the gravy — or srikhand — from the power ministry.

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