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At St Stephen’s, asking questions was not good: Rahul Gandhi

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D K Singh Posted: Oct 22, 2008 at 0013 hrs IST
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Srinagar (Uttarakhand), October 21: Congress MP bats for quality institutions, OBC reservation, entry of foreign universities

Lamenting the poor quality of education in India compared to other countries, AICC general secretary and Member of Parliament Rahul Gandhi on Tuesday took a dig at his alma mater, St Stephen’s College.

Seeking to differentiate between the education system in India and that in the United States and England, where he studied, the Amethi MP said, “We don’t ask people (students) to ask questions. When I was studying at St Stephen’s College, asking a question was not (perceived to be) good in our class.

“You were looked down upon if you asked too many questions.”

As another illustration of the state of education in the country, Rahul said his staff had recently opposed his plan to visit Kanpur because certain institutions he was supposed to visit were found to be “not good enough”. People, the MP said, did not want him to see how bad they were.

Faced with a volley of questions from agitated students opposing OBC quota in central educational institutions in both Kumaon and Garhwal regions in the past two days, Rahul Gandhi said he was “open” to this issue. But he maintained that he believes in increasing the number of institutions and improving the quality of education to solve this contentious subject.

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In the past two days, during separate interactions with students at Ramnagar on Monday and at HN Bahuguna Garhwal University here on Tuesday, Rahul faced persistent queries about the rationale of HRD Minister Arjun Singh’s decision to introduce OBC quota in educational institutions. While he maintained that his solution to the vexing issue of reservation was increasing the number of seats and educational institutions, as also the quality of education, he had to take a stance on this issue on Tuesday as several students engaged him into a debate on the merits and demerits of education.

“I am open to that (the issue reservation),” Rahul said. “I am open to both sides but we should focus on solving the problem. Let’s not worry about how the seats are divided. Problem is there are not many seats and that is why this is an issue.

“If the number of seats in India becomes unlimited, would reservation be relevant? So let’s not start dividing people.”

Supporting the entry of foreign universities in the country, Rahul said 30 years ago there was not enough money to increase the number of institutions to the desirable level. “But today we have enough money for that. Stanford, Oxford and other international institutions want to come here, but they are stopped.”

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Rahul's remark by Geetika on 2008-10-23 03:20:43.146296+05:30
Those who are calling "Rahul" an idiot etc, should introspect about their intellect ,knowledge, and ability to comprehend. He is right when he talked about the gap between Foreign Universites and Indian Univerities. So called touted IIT stands at 100th place by international standard. By the way, those who are callling him an idiot, given a chance, will not hesitate to forge relation with this most elligible bacholor. Peek into your family and his family's standard!
Rahul's Education by Carmela on 2008-10-23 01:43:22.448838+05:30
I am surprised to see this joker commenting on the education system of India. He failed in India miserably and went abroad for education. What degree did he get nobody knows. I read in Express about his mental (dis) abilities.
RG is absolutely wrong by Bhalu on 2008-10-22 23:40:22.416565+05:30
Mr. Rahul Gandhi need to wake up and realize the edcational system in USA is not good. Examples :- (i) The number of working days in USA is barely 180 days a year (ii) Chemistry, Biology, Physic are poorly taught to US students. You need to remember Mr. Gandhi that US is known for the brain-drain policy (iii) The value and moral is one of the worse issues in US school. Most of the scientists, doctors, professors in USA are immigrants from all over the world.
You aren't even a stephanian Mr. Gandhi! by Anne on 2008-10-22 21:38:18.53026+05:30
i'd really like to know how Rahul Gandhi got the ide idea that Stephen's discouraged questioning... i wonder how many classes he actually attended in his 3 month stint at College... There are thousands of staphanians who can tell u how to ask questions in college Mr. Gandhi... actually being IN the college is one huge requirement for it...
        
Mr.Gandhi's comments on Stephens
by Shiv Dhawan on 2008-10-24 13:11:55.149025+05:30
Everyone has freedom of speech.So does rahul. But what he says is untrue.Stephens is probably the only institution that supports freedom of expression and right to question-that was true 25 years ago and even today. I and indeed generations of students from 1881 onwards have never come across a single instance of college muzzling us.It is the creme de la creme of educational institutions and Mr Gandhi ought to feel priveledged to be an alumni even if he did not really graduate from there. And being a distinguished alumni, he ought not bash his alma mater in public fora that have nothing to do with the institution.
Rahul has a GOOD HEART. by shami@gmail.com on 2008-10-22 21:14:22.648904+05:30
Rahul may not be a genious.., but he has a good heart , this is the quality which most of our politician not have. We need such leader who can understand the feeling of our. Go ahead Rahul..
RG is absolutely right by d.chatterjee on 2008-10-22 20:22:40.665387+05:30
Well I do not know about the real reason behind RG's admssion to St. Stephens and his performance in educational Institutes. But being not very brilliant in studies does not and should not take the right to speak truth from anyone.As a mother of school going son, I whole heartedlly agree that asking questions are not very encouraged at schools.. Teachers even get angry when asked to reapeat any teaching. Not every student is brilliant and many are not, but even a mere request to repeat a solution, say for maths brings about volley of abuse. Exceptions are there but few. Sadly our education system nurtures only 'muck up and vomit' principle. Marks are the most important factors, understanding is not.
        
Rahul
by Abhishek Singh on 2008-10-23 00:47:41.221331+05:30
Rahul should put one thing in his mind....u r in India......not in some developed
rubbish comments by vijay on 2008-10-22 20:11:27.552382+05:30
This guy is no one hypocrite.
Do not buy his comments -its all about buisiness by Antina on 2008-10-22 19:58:54.12083+05:30
I am presently doing my PhD in Physics at Netherlands. I have done my masters and B.S from Calcutta university, India and usually went to schools and colleges which are not so reputed. But when I compare my knowledge and level of understanding with students here I do not really find a difference. Even in some cases my foundations are stronger than many of them. I am now involved in the education system here and I must add that the standard of education in India in general is good and comparable to International standards. Adding some flat screen computers and some sophisticated instruments does not necessarily mean good standard of education. I guess Rahul Gandhi wants to give opportunity to the foreign universities to do business in India - thats the reason he is suddenly worried about the education system. Please do not buy his theories.
        
I AGREE WITH RAHUL GANDHI
by Ajay on 2008-10-22 23:15:34.178582+05:30
RG's point that the quota for OBC's is hard on some is because that there aren't enough number of quality educational institutions in the country, this is such a blatant truth. RG doesn't want to maintain the status quo and I completely agree with him that Indian students of every caste and economic background be given the opportunity of world class teaching and resources. The PhD's offered in many colleges and universities in India are not on par with those from the West and this is a bare fact as can be seen from the list of top 500 Universities of the World (compiled by the The Times, UK every year)- Indian Universities can be barely counted on the list. It goes to show that the quality of education at levels below PhD's is indeed poor. There's great need and imminently urgent to set up quality training institutes and draw up standards of the highest level for teachers of all subjects from primary schools to secondary to colleges and universities for the betterment of every Indian irrespective of caste. Let's break the status quo. Let India move into modernity please. Thank you.
I too went to Stanford! by Chandran Nair on 2008-10-22 19:38:40.554873+05:30
Obviously our PM in waiting is not satisfied with the set up in Harward, too. A Keralite who was doing his graduation there during the same period as Barack Obama, says that Rahul Gandhi too had enrolled there, to disappear for after a few weeks. Thus, if he has been in institutions in UK and USA, I had been in Prineton, Columbia, Stanford, Berkeley, Carnegie Mellon... etc. as I have attended some graduations of some smart and brilliant young relations of mine. I even went on conducted tours of some prominent ones!
Foreign Unievrsities, QUota and Rahul Gandhi's musings by rajeev on 2008-10-22 19:34:10.709135+05:30
Ahan he got admission into St STephen's on sports quota, i think it was shooting quota. I am not suer if he did anything worthwhile in shooting later on. And then he goes abroad and does not complete his education and he is talking about the education system in India. There are lots of substandard universities abroad. Good education is not just about being able to ask questions. And such things as askign questions have to be inculcated from schools not at Universities. i am sure there could other better people to talk about education than him. But then that is how it is in India.
Rahul Gandhi by Pratap Nair on 2008-10-22 18:26:16.790863+05:30
This guy who is our potential future PM does not know what he is talking about. At least in India he got his High School Certificate. What does he have to show for the wasted years in USA and England? The Congress wants to project Rahul as a future PM. I hope that I do not live to see that day. I have friends who have done their schooling in St. Stephens, Delhi. They are all in praise of this Institution and have done very well in life. What has Rahul achieved?
Hey Guys Rahul has the same right as you guys by Varghese on 2008-10-22 17:31:11.441607+05:30
Looks like these people who are putting comments about Rahul Gandhi related subjects are looking for an oppertunity to take some kind of a revenge. At least consider him as a person who has rights as you guys to think and give his views on the given subject. Media is always after him and and he need to give his views on the questions being asked. As a matter of fact, Indian education system need a lot of improvement and we are adapting many methodologies from foreign countries. Also, dont forget that our current education system was set up by the British.
Hmmm.... by Indian on 2008-10-22 16:51:53.179887+05:30
Rahul's idea is good, that we should have enough seats so people do not end up fighting for seats. But that is a rather simplistic view of the subject. All of want to have so many things, but there is always a limitation on the availability of resources! Therefore just increasing the number of seats is not the solution, though it is very much part of the solution. Rahul is wrong when he talks about foreign universities in this context - lets be clear, foreign institutes will never come here to do any service and offer education at a reasonable price, instead they will deliver education at a premium which can only be taken by upper middle class and above. But anyone with lesser resources cannot benefit from that. Education and Heath are the responsibility of the Government. We need to evolve a model on the lines of the European nations and follow that to give education to literally everyone born in this country.
Hurray!!! Yuvraaj!!` by Vinodh on 2008-10-22 16:17:19.377202+05:30
Wow...at this time of financial turmoil our yuvraaj is giving us all some humorous subject to ponder. Well Mr.Yuvraaj can U explain to the nation how U got admitted in St.Stepehen's and what do U want young Indian generation to do. Once U say that education system is bad..why dont U go and ask this to the Grandfather Mr.Arjun Singh who leads the ministry
An open letter to the Prince by Vijay on 2008-10-22 16:00:51.985365+05:30
Your highness-It is an honor to be graced with your enlightening notes on the state of the education infrastructure in this country. I don't want to kid myself into believing that the Indian system of education is the best in the world or the make-believe scarcity of quality institutions of higher learning is a good thing becuase it increases competition to stratospheric levels ensuring that either the bightest or as in your case, the guy with the biggest clout gets through. However, as an alumnus from a western university, I can say for sure that our system is not something to be frowned upon. I agree with you whole-heartedly that we now have the ability to spend on education (After Roti, Kapda and Makan) but recommend a different approach to it. I suggest that we focus on the easy targets first
Why Rahul cant speak properly ? by Nahesh Naik on 2008-10-22 15:59:15.186406+05:30
now All will know why he is an idiot....He is just blaiming the educators from the past....It is in the genes of the Gan dhi kul to be little better then the bonafide illetretes..no!
Rahul Gandhi by R.D.NAWANI on 2008-10-22 15:11:41.128084+05:30
Rahul Gandhi's approach to enhance educational standards is commendable and need lots of praise. His approach ,not to divide Indians on the basis of reservation indicates his whole heartedness to make India one and all Indians one entity. Further his thinking to let increase the number of seats to that extent , that reservation thinking become obslete. Every Indian who is interested in any kind or type of education may get with out any problem and prejudices. His way of thnking is definitely , no backward minded Indian may accept. What was he in his student days and what was his merit in class and university or coolege is no way needed at this hour. He is now a politician and his ideas are supreme. We need to to suport him and help him to covert his supteme ideas into reality. There is no doubt he is from one of the finest Indian family back ground. His ancestors are responsible for the development in all fields which we are witnessing today.
Status of education in India by L Gurumurthy on 2008-10-22 14:04:28.655357+05:30
Even if for argument sake, we agree with the opinion of Rajiv, he has to explain who is responsible for the situation. He and his congress party cannot escape from the blame for the present status of affairs in education sector.
At St Stephen’s, asking questions was not good: Rahul Gandhi by K.Suresh on 2008-10-22 12:46:45.653597+05:30
"Let’s not worry about how the seats are divided" - Does he mean we should not worry about it or the Congress will not ?“If the number of seats in India becomes unlimited, would reservation be relevant? So let’s not start dividing people.” - Look who's talking ! How and when does the number of seats become unlimited ? Does he think he can buy quality teachers with money ? If we have so much money why is our primary education system at an abysmal level ? Who has divided the nation on the basis of caste ? He is a fine example of what happens if you simply buy education with money or family name.
Prince Rahul's Phoren Education by Johonson Thomas K on 2008-10-22 12:37:15.475355+05:30
Rahul's praise for "phoren" exposes the standard of his own education. What India needs is Indian Universities both in the private and public sector on the lines of US private universities. The Doon schoos
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