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    The Navy said on a RTI request that it went ahead with the Gorshkov deal based on the 'thought' that repairs would make the ship sea-worthy.
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    The decision to ink the multi-million dollar deal to purchase decommissioned Russian aircraft carrier Admiral Gorshkov was taken after a mere “visual examination” of the ship in “as is condition”, the Indian Navy has admitted.

    The Navy said in a reply dated September 22, 2009, on a Right to Information (RTI) request that it went ahead with the deal based on the “thought” that repairs would make the ship sea-worthy.

    But it was only after the “equipment was opened up” later for a “detailed examination of hull structures, systems, cabling, etc” that the Navy found that entire replacements and not repairs were necessary for the carrier.

    “As per the contract signed in January 2004, the original package was drawn up based on visual examination in as-is condition wherein it was found that the majority of the equipment, systems could be repaired while the electronic equipment could be renewed,” Vice-Admiral S P S Cheema with the Integrated Headquarters, Ministry of Defence (Navy), wrote in his RTI reply.

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    He went on to say that later “on opening up the equipment for a detailed examination and survey of the state of the hull structures, systems, cabling, etc, it emerged that these could not be repaired and hence would have to be replaced with new ones”.

    “These additionalities have resulted in the increase in project costs,” the Vice-Admiral said in his response to RTI applicant S C Aggarwal.

    “Russian side has been intimated that the cost revision now proposed by them is final and no further additional ties will be accepted for negotiation. The same has been accepted by the Russian side,” he said, adding that the revised delivery date of the ship is in December 2012.

    The Vice-Admiral stated that the carrier would be as good as new with a service life “equivalent of a new aircraft carrier” once the additional works are over.

    He said that any statements to the effect that the carrier was an “old, outdated carrier is without factual basis”, while confirming that the ship would meet the requirements of the Indian Navy.

    Replying to the question on how much a new aircraft carrier the size of Gorshkov would cost, he said: “It is not feasible to buy a new aircraft carrier commercially off the shelf”.

    “A new carrier of the size of Gorshkov is likely to cost between 3 to 4 BUSD (billion US $) and that too understandably without spares, training, infrastructure and documents cost,” he said, refusing to delve further by citing that such information would be prejudicial to state interests.

    Asked about the life-span of Gorshkov, Public Information Officer and Commander-At-Arms S K Gupta referred to the Internet in his reply that “a modern-day aircraft carrier has a life span of 30 to 40 years with regular refits and routine maintenance”.

    “Existing contract stipulates the ship’s (Gorshkov) service life span to be a minimum of 20 years. Preliminary study shows that the lifespan after additional works is likely to be beyond 40 years,” Gupta said in his separate reply.

    IndiaBy: Datta | 05-Oct-2009 Reply | Forward Military rule is India will be extremely devastating to her cuz of various factors: 1) massive unrest among the regular populace. Crucked politicians stripped off of power will not at all sit tight. 2) Naxals and rebels in various states take advantage of the situation and start their own campaigns (as evident from Taliban)3) Our enemies who are already hawk eying us will deinitely take advantage of the situation. They will nibble away or even take huge bites off of our land. Military alone will be unable to stop the deterioration on all fronts. The point is military coop is not appropriate at all for India, at least not in a flip of switch fashion. See what happened to Paki. Getting rid of corrupt politicians will take years of careful and WICKED planning. Anywayz, back to the Gorshkov deal, the only thing I wish is India should get it before the lone carrier India has is sent to he meuseum. Reg cost, almost all defense deals are spiked with corruption. This aint different
    DOWN THE GARDEN PATH........By: BABUJI | 03-Oct-2009 Reply | Forward If India can build a Nuke Submarine, why can't it build an Aircraft Carrier? So the argument that India cannot buy because no one is ready to sell is a very lame one. With the amount of money wasted on this floating junk which is only going to last another 30 years God forbid half of the time spending in the docks for expensive repairs,India could have built brand new TWO carriers for the price of ONE and sold one with a considerable profit to a needing country. Clearly in this case they have been taken for an expensive ride.
    no word for son of be... polit. son of pig,By: ankur desai | 03-Oct-2009 Reply | Forward yar they know that china has 5000 missiles ready,wh they r waiting 4, they hav to devlop 15000k.m. missiles,5/6th gen. planes, at least we hav 20 aircraft carier self made, 50 lakh army people,15000 tanks,15000 artilary canons with 155 m.m, 205 m.m.,355/305 m.m, and 50 to 60 k.m. long range, we need halicop. with speed of 1000k.m. ,300 war ships,destroyers, and at least 8 lakh of costal gards force,8000 costal canons with 40 k.m. range,latest radars ,counter firing system against missile,1 crore gas masks,1 crore bullet proof jackets,9000 biological wepans,1 crore latest rifles( ak-47 is old fashioned, so we need gun with sniper/grande launcher role,9 lakh bazuka type wepans,urgently to save our country from china,i know govt. hav excuse that they dont hav money,but yar our people given money when in 62 we dont hav any more wepans,what i described if u feel that it is rong, than i hav good answers for that,
    Gorshkov dealBy: Desi | 03-Oct-2009 Reply | Forward People on the selection committee should be hanged !!! It has become routine for babus to choose poor products at nation's expense but personal gains. Let us be honest, with our Naval shipyard's capabilities we will never be able to build or maintain a navy ship. The people working at Naval shipyard or HAL (LCA ???) are all morons waiting decades for engines from US to start. Our people can't even reverse engineer stuff. Let us accept it, our education system produces highly qualified clerks !!! We do not have guts to be creative, all we can do it copy if it was made somewhere else in the world. Mera Bharat Mahan !!!
    Must buy GorshkovBy: Naidu | 02-Oct-2009 Reply | Forward It is easy to say we can buy from someone else. The fact is no one is prepared to sell a 45,000 tonne aircraft carrier. This is why China does not have a single aircraft carrier as of today. 3 billion dollars is what one would expect to pay for such a carrier. Some reports say President Bush offered the the 50 year old American aircraft carrier 'USS Kitty Hawk'. But, according to those reports, India would have had to pay for the refurbishing plus buy 40 American fighters. That would be far more expensive than 3 billion dollars because the 'Kitty Hawk' is a larger super carrier and the American fighters alone would have cost more than 3 billion. Beyond cost. Any American equipment has huge strings attached. Remember when the U.S disapproved of India's nuclear tests in 1998 they cut off all spare parts. As a result, India's entire fleet of Sea King helicopters were grounded. With the Russians there are no strings attached. They don't care if we do nuke tests or kill a million people.
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