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  • The Hindu Council UK welcomed the Delhi High Court's historic judgement which decriminalised consensual homo sexual relations and said Hinduism does not condemn gay people.

    British Hindu homosexual community will welcome the news that their brethren in India are now be able to enjoy the same freedom as they do here, Anil Bhanot, General Secretary Hindu Council UK said. It is indeed good news that people are not discriminated against because of God's laws of nature. Bhanot said the Hindu scripts describe the homosexual condition to be a "biological one, and although the scripture gives guidance to parents on how to avoid procreating a homosexual child, it does not condemn the child as unnatural.

    "Hinduism prescribes 16 ceremonies to mark each major stage in one's life span. We would usually observe the birth, name, adolescence, marriage, retirement and death ceremonies but there is a little known ceremony called the "insemination" ceremony or the Garbhadan Sanskaar, which I am sure nobody observes now-days."

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    Bhanot said, "This insemination ceremony talks about homosexuality. The ancient Rishis or prophets advocated that there are two elements, fire (agni for sun) and water (soma for moon) which determine the sex of a child.”

    "Of the 16 days from the end of the menstruation cycle, sexual intercourse for the purposes of procreation was forbidden on certain days as during these days the menses may continue."

    The theory goes that if insemination takes place in the night of an even number from six to 16, a male child will be born whilst on an odd number of fifth, seventh, ninth and 15th night a female child will be born, Bhanot added.

    "The scripture further forbids insemination on the 11th or the 13th night after the end of the menstruation cycle because then it says the child will be homosexual," he said.

    According to the scripture the sex of a child is determined by whether the fire element is dominant or the water element is dominant. Thus during those even nights the fire element dominates giving a male conception and during those odd nights the water element gives a female conception.

    However, if the fire element equals the water element then a homosexual conception takes place, Bhanot said. "The point here is that the homosexual nature is part of the natural law of God; it should be accepted for what it is, no more and no less.

    Hindus are generally conservative but it would seem to me that in ancient India they even celebrated sex as an enjoyable part of procreation, where priests were invited for ceremonies in their home to mark the beginning of process.

    In fact King Dasharath, who fathered Lord Rama around 2100 BC had one of the most lavish insemination ceremonies.

    "Homosexuals are full human beings, who in Hinduism even worship their own deity, the Mother Goddess Bahuchara, for their spiritual link to the Absolute Brahm.

    nobody can comment about any religion without reading all the religious books of that religion.By: sudharshan | 09-Jul-2009 Reply | Forward there is not a single line in any hindu religious books that says birth of a girl child is a sin or bad karma.just reading the GITA will solve all the problems of life.first read ur religious book fully and then those of other religions.Then alone u can comment true to ur conscience.if a person does anything other than worshipping god when he/she goes to a religious place,he does a sin.if he is god fearing he wont do that.it is the individual's behavior.there are millons of people from other religions who misbehave in religious places.it doesn't mean that those religions are impractical or lenient.ALL this depends on the way these people r brought up and not on the religion.Also if we r brought up well we wont hurt others by our speech,deed or even thought.If anyone who reads this faces a problem then read the translation of the Gita.And that will show u it is not merely a religious book but a guide to mankind.PEOPLE who hate their religion are atheists and they can be in religion
    seminaries are a front for gays2By: n Krishna | 09-Jul-2009 Reply | Forward Homosexuality is not the fault of the gays as they are born that way. The Church doesn't explain what god's plan about gays.. A christian priest has told Sister Jesme that 5% of people are born with homosexual orientation and most of these Christian gays are attracted to monasteries. Jesme's autobiography was a major embarrassment to the Church when it hit the stands in February 2009. She started working on the book after she took a six-month sabbatical from her vocation as the principal of St Mary's College, Thrissur,Kerala. With four more years of service remaining, she quit the college and the Congregation of Mother Carmelite in August 2008. The chuch wanted to brand her as mentally ill. The Catholic Bishops' Conference of India has vehemently opposed the Delhi High Court's decision to do away with section 377 of the IPC, which penalises homosexuality. The bishops think homosexuality would weaken family values.bit.ly/8uPq2
    Seminaries are front for homos 1By: n Krishna | 09-Jul-2009 Reply | Forward Legalise gay sex to clean up monasteries, says former nun Sister Jesme who wrote the book ‘Amen’. Christisn institutions of celibacy are havens for gays. Sr Jesme, exposed the underbelly of the convents and other church institutions in her autobiography, Amen, says, legalisation of homosexuality is a must. In her autobiography, Amen, Jesme tells her own experience with a lesbian nun, who forcibly slept with her in convent. The Christian institutions built on celibacy are full of homosexuals, as per the book. Church and Christianity must be the creation of homosexuals to prevent them from being branded as eunuchs by the society. The church is the den of homosexuals and celibacy of the priests and nuns could be cover for them to live together in the seminaries and monastries. Science says that there Jesus was created in AD 325. There were no christians till 4th century. Christianity appears to have created by gays, as many of the popes were gays and one pope even gave birth to a child
    Saifuddin, the son of IblisBy: Sumangal Pande | 06-Jul-2009 Reply | Forward UK Hindu Council is working for UK gays, it seems. Good for them. May be bad, whatever, who cares? Just like this Saifuddin guy is riddled with holes in his head, they too, seem to be ignorant about what is at stake. As for Saifuddin, let me tell him this : Go back in your ancestry, you will find horrible things happened to your people somewhere along the line, the poison of which has soiled your soul (I presume you have one, do not know what your belief allows you to have and not). Your great grandfathers were tortured or killed, grandmothers raped by the so called ganims and then forced in to Islam. Invariably so is the story of spread of Islam, a social system created by the Prophet(kudos to him) for barbarians of Arabia.Our peers of the time lacked foresight to reconvert after the onslaught was over and you unfortunately remained in your present hung status. So, stop worrying/criticising Hindus per se, you have a lot as skeletons in your own closet. FYI: We strongly condemn gayism.
    what?By: sid | 06-Jul-2009 Reply | Forward I think darvan is totally mistaken, quoting to the previous post. There are enough evidences that animals engage in same sex relationships as well. There is nothing to stoop so low, remember we are a part of the animal kingdom too.Get your facts right!!This is to do with genes, nothing to do with religion. Even a devout muslim, hindu or christian could be gay. u and i can't control that!!!!!!
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