J S Verma: Something the world knows it is in the open that investigate. When this petition was brought to the SC as a PIL then we in the SC thought that’s what I said in the judgment I wrote that it is a violation of the entire nation’s that is we the people’s rights constitutionally guaranteed and fundamental rights under articles 14 and 21. 14 is right to equality, 21 is right to dignity. So there is no equal application of laws so you apply that law differentially and invariably leave out the bigger people from the net and ultimately in a developing country and that’s what I recall having written if the money meant for public good, for national good, for people’s welfare if it goes to private pockets then it is at the cost of the people’s welfare and therefore the human rights violation that is the right to life and liberty of deprivation of the people is far more. Even the PM Rajiv Gandhi had said that note more than 16 paisa of a rupee goes to development

•Shekhar Gupta: And the specific institution you targeted there was an institution that could bring out equality in terms of enforcing cleanliness in public life

J S Verma: Equal application law which is a constitutional and I am someone who believers that for the same offence committed by a person better of in a higher position the punishment should be greater. You see all offences are bad but a crime committed by me should be treated more severely than a crime committed by someone who is much lower down the …

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