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    We should not minimise the fact that social change in matters as delicate as sexuality is difficult to negotiate in any society. The judgment is admirably tactful in pointing out simply one fact: the state has not been able to prove that it can demonstrate that serious harms result as a consequence of these privat acts. Claims of such harm are often causally unfounded, based on prejudice and often even less plausible than harms that result from many of the practices we do tolerate. At least on this much there is a consensus amongst the 126 nations who have decriminalised this practice before India. Even for those, otherwise uncomfortable, at least this much should be enough to ground the basic legal claim the court has made. There ought to be at least overlapping consensus on this point.

    The discourse on toleration this has generated is revealing. There is the usual assortment of religious leaders who are appealing to their traditions. One thing should be clear: a claim can have no standing simply because it is made on the grounds of religion or, as in the case of the VHP, tradition. Without saying so, the court has made this abundantly clear. And it will be interesting if this secular logic is now followed through in all cases pertaining to equality and liberty. The court has fore-grounded personal autonomy as a constitutional value, and potentially set the stage for questioning community practices that impede this value.

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    The second strand of discomfort with the case is more interesting and could potentially be a resource in sustaining the social legitimacy of the judgment. This strand is not so much intolerant, but is simply uncomfortable at having to take a position on the issue. Its mode of tolerance is a kind of benign neglect, “Don’t ask, don’t tell.” This may not be a perfect normative position. Nor may it be an option in modern society. What they are resenting is not so much the decriminalisation, as much as the need to discuss and take a stand. They do not want to discriminate or stigmatise; what they would like is, to use an old-fashioned phrase, a certain modesty in sexual matters of any kind. This anxiety is in a more general sense inescapable. Our society will have to find intelligent ways of dealing with it. But it would be a mistake to necessarily brand this anxiety as a form of intolerance. In its own ways, this discourse of modesty might sustain the kind of tolerance that simply says, “Let it be.”

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    It was supposed to be about all of us but was it? By: Dr.G.Srinivasan | 07-Jul-2009 Reply | Forward Somebody had taught me that honesty is the best policy.To dictate terms to the society the judiciary should be honest and get the respect of the citizens.This is a sine qua non in any society to become civilised.A judiciary backlogged with cases which it will never clear in a century cannot gain this respect nor is it in any way honest enough to deal in matters concerning the people society and morality. To keep people waiting and crawling for justice for decades does not constitute constitutional morality.The constitution was about people -- the decision to have a representative democracy which did put people into untold misery was about all of us -- but the decision to have a westminster type of democracy was taken by the few for the few.On no important matter concerning all of us does the government go in for a civilized form a referendum . There are a lot or things -- we have a democracy )??) where the PM is unelected the President is unelected.This was also about all of us
    This is not the only issue By: Dr.G.Srinivasan | 07-Jul-2009 Reply | Forward But for now, we should be thankful that the court has shown great legal and moral clarity. There will be opposition from self-appointed custodians of tradition. But theleast we can do is say: accept the judgment and move on. This point is taken with a lot of salt not a pinch!!!! What is about all of us is not this but a much more important thing like the right for justice. The courts have been clogged with crores of cases waiting for ages and crying for justice. To neglect them and giving priority to this issue alone will be an injustice done by the judiciary on the people.Again the issue props up why is it that nothing is done for the pending cases and few cases are given more attention whereas the rest are left to rot!!!! I am more concerned about justice and the judiciary itself !! It is for the judiciary to be fair and show the same fervor in finishing up the case and rid the judiciary of corruption -- only the tip of the iceberg was seen last week! There are important issues
    Re: Law is not only about libertyBy: RC | 06-Jul-2009 Reply | Forward Here are a couple of amazing and life-affirming maxims to live by, "To thine own self be true" and "You can be the best you as God made you or a second-best someone else".I'm gay. God made me that way. I can only be the best me as God made me. If I try to be you, I'll fail miserably and be very unhappy. Society is made up of individuals. If individuals are happy, society is happy. If individuals are unhappy, they don't contribute to society to their best capacity and society suffers because of it.Yes, sacrifices are made for the good of the masses, but why do those sacrifices have to be made by gays only? Btw, it can only be called sacrifice if one makes it willingly, not if its forced.Gays forced to sacrifice their lives by marrying the opposite sex for society's sake only brings about unhappiness. Nothing's gained. In fact, with homosexuality in the world, there's natural population control. Happy and healthy homosexuals would be better contributing members of society.
    Re: Law is not only about libertyBy: RC | 06-Jul-2009 Reply | Forward Speaking of morality and behavior...what you see right now are people who behave as if they were heterosexuals/ straight. This is harmful, not only to them, but to others around them, becuase reaction to repression and oppression comes out in many different ways. It is more harmful to insist adults marry someone of the opposite sex when one knows it will ruin two or more lives (kids, family). THAT is immoral. It is immoral to not talk about safe-sex practices. It is immoral to refuse or make it difficult for someone to get healthcare that could save their life and that of their partner (and in case of married people, their spouse as well). You talk about the media glamorizing gays...I have a compaint that they don't cover gay issues enough...there's very little clear and comprehensive coverage of real issues...the problems, obstacles and sacrifices gays, lesbians, bisexuals and transgender folks have to make just to exist. Try walking in their shoes, you'll know the truth.
    Re:Law is not only about libertyBy: RC | 06-Jul-2009 Reply | Forward Raj, this verdict isn't in Sanskrit. Justices shouldn't have to dumb down their language...otherwise we'd have a verdict 1000 pages long. The High Court did not make a new law, only interpreted an old one. They realized an existing law was discriminatory and therefore unconstitutional. That's all. Arguing about legalizing marijuana is a baseless scare tactic. And labeling something "abnormal" or "dysfunctional" doesn't make it so. You say gays harm society? Prove it.Laws are definitely about liberty AND protecting the rights and defunct laws need to be erased. Besides, we're not just talking about a miniscule minority being affected, but tens of millions. The stigma is so great that more than 95% of them are in the closet. With this verdict you will see more people "out", but it doesn't mean they've increased in number, just that they now feel safe being out. Moreover, it’s straight parents who birth homosexuals, not laws, so any increase should be attributed to them.
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