•Shekhar Gupta: Hello and welcome to walk the talk. I am Shekhar Gupta and my guest today, well birthday boy commerce & industry minister Kamal Nath. Many happy returns. I didn’t know it was our birthday until I came into your house and saw all your sort of political celebrations..hoardings and all...keep on getting younger.

Kamal Nath: yeah ofcourse it is the thought process…thought process must always be alive and must always be vibrant. That’s what it is.

•Shekhar Gupta: You know you started out as being a young congressman as a member of youth congress and you have kept that youthful image.

Kamal Nath: well yeah, I started my political career as a member of youth congress. Those were different days. Congress had always been in the government. Those were days when BJP hadn’t been born. Then we lost the election in 77. youth congress had a formidable role at that time. prior to that we had the five point program. That was the time when Sanjay Gandhi

•Shekhar Gupta: You were a hridya samrat.

Kamal Nath: well I don’t know what name you want to give it. But I did have….

•Shekhar Gupta: That’s what you used to call him.

Kamal Nath: yes sanjay was known by many names. It depends on who called him what. So we had the five point program which eventually became not only a national program but a global program like tree plantation- each one plant one, each one teach one.

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