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    NSG too felt need for men who could communicate with the terrorists
    The Lashkar-e-Toiba terrorists who attacked Mumbai on November 26 may have been sent to the city on a suicide mission but there were several indications during the 60-hour siege that they were willing to consider using their hostages as bargaining pawns. But let alone have trained negotiators on hand to try and convince the attackers to surrender, the Mumbai police and Central security agencies involved in the counter-attack did not even consider using negotiations as a strategy to buy time.

    In fact, within the first few hours of the attack, Maharashtra Director General of Police A N Roy went public saying there would be “no negotiations”, indicating a tough posture and lack of a gameplan to seek a possible peaceful end. For a city with two IPS officers trained in the US to negotiate with hostage-takers, and with a similar unit available with security officials at the Mumbai airport, this was yet another instance of how the initial shock of the devastating attack hurt strategic coherence.

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    The first indication that the Lashkar men were considering taking hostages and making demands became available in a phone conversation between the terrorists in the Taj Mahal Hotel and their handlers in Pakistan. According to transcripts of the conversation accessed by The Indian Express, the call was made at 3.10 am on November 27, less than six hours after the four attackers had stormed the hotel and occupied the heritage wing:

    Receiver: Greetings!

    Caller: Greetings! There are three ministers and one secretary of the cabinet in your hotel. We don't know in which room.

    Receiver: Oh! That is good news! It is the icing on the cake.

    Caller: Find those 3-4 persons and then get whatever you want from India.

    Receiver: Pray that we find them.

    The second time around, it was more than just an indication. In fact, supporters of the Chabad-Lubavitch sect in the US, whose Chabad House (Nariman House) had been attacked and seized by two Lashkar gunmen, even initiated a process of getting in touch with the attackers who were holed inside the five-storey building in Colaba.

    Calls were made to the terrorists and an attempt was on to rope in a Mumbai Police official to pursue talks with them. But in the absence of a clear strategy to engage them and half-hearted measures to string up the technology needed to make a conference call, the attempt fell through.

    Here is what happened on the morning of November 27, about 12 hours after Babar Imran and Nasir had raided the nondescript building in a Colaba lane. Rabbi Levi Shemtov, a Chabad emissary in Washington, called the mobile phone of Rabbi Gavriel Holtzberg, who ran Nariman House, but ended up getting someone who spoke in a language he did not understand. It was one of the terrorists speaking in Urdu.

    Chabad-Lubavitch followers in Washington and New York searched for a Urdu-Hindi speaker they could depend upon and found P V Viswanath, who taught at Pace University in New York, and was willing to act as the interpreter between Shemtov and the terrorists in Nariman House.

    The first conference call between Shemtov, Viswanath and Imran took place at 10.30 am and the first thing Viswanath asked the Lashkar man was if the hostages were safe. "Humne unko thappad bhi nahin mara hai," (We haven't even slapped them) was the reply. There were a total of five such calls with the Chabad representatives seeking to find out how the hostages were doing, if they needed food and generally sought to keep the Lashkar men engaged in a conversation.

    But the most important conversation took place rather early in the day. Ajmal Amir Kasab, one of the 10 attackers, had been captured the previous night by Mumbai Police and by the morning, word about it was already out and even Imran and Nasir knew about it although they didn't know who among their mates it was. "Hum Bharat sarkar se baat karna chahate hain. Hamara ek banda aapke kabze mein hai, hamare saamne use pesh kar do (We want to speak to the Indian government, one of our men is in your custody, bring him before us)," they told Viswanath.

    The Chabad representatives in Washington got in touch with the Indian embassy in the US capital and that set the wheels of the bureaucracy in motion with calls going through to New Delhi and then to Mumbai, before Mumbai Police Assistant Commissioner Isaq Bagwan, who could speak English and Hindi, was nudged to try and join the next conference call. His task: to talk to Imran and Nasir and see if they were "willing to surrender".

    Bagwan told The Indian Express that he was given a number, 9819464530, and told to talk to the terrorist there. "I tried the number and for the first half hour it was engaged. Later the phone started ringing but it was never picked up," he said. Bagwan tried the number for a hour and a half with no luck. The building was stormed the next day by NSG commandos and the two terrorists killed but the six hostages had also been eliminated by then.

    Yet another opportunity apparently came again on the morning of November 27 from the Trident-Oberoi hotels which were being held by Abdul Rehman Chhota and Fahadullah. The two are believed to have called a Hindi news channel and discussed their demands on air but no attempt was made by security agencies to pursue that call even though doubts were subsequently raised about its authenticity.

    The NSG also felt the need for men who could communicate with the terrorists when they were within the earshot of its commandos during encounters in the Taj and The Oberoi. As then NSG chief J K Dutt told The Indian Express Editor-in-Chief Shekhar Gupta during an interview for NDTV's Walk The Talk programme, on two or three occasions the commandos told the terrorists that they had no chance of getting out of the place alive and that they better surrender, so at least their lives would be saved.

    But the terrorists would reply with a string of abuses and start shooting. Not trained to handle such a response, the NSG obviously saw no reason in trying to engage them in a negotiation.

    All these instances came for much discussion during post-26/11 security debriefings in New Delhi with experts, including those from the NSG, saying they sorely missed official hostage negotiators even if it was just meant to buy time. The sessions involved then Southern Area Army Commander (now Vice-Chief of the Army) Lt Gen Noble Thamburaj and Dutt and the common thread in these debriefings was that the government should have appointed a negotiator for the terrorists inside the Taj, The Oberoi and Nariman House to buy time for the hostages.

    While Maharashtra DGP Roy's public rejection of negotiations was considered unfortunate, it was also pointed out that Roy did not have any instructions to say to the contrary. The only telephone number given by the Intelligence Bureau to Mumbai police was the Callphonex platform no +1 201 253 18211, which was in touch with the terrorists at the Taj at 1.00 am on November 27. As the terrorists there were on a killing spree and had shown no intentions to negotiate, the state police chief thought that it was wise to speak up.

    On the other hand, the Israeli Ambassador to India, Mark Sofer, and his defence attaché are learnt to have called on senior government officials' post-26/11, and expressed satisfaction over the conduct of operations but are said to have suggested that a government negotiator would have helped save lives. Even General Thamburaj, who was in Mumbai through the operations with Army troops guarding the periphery, conveyed to the Defence Ministry that while the counter-terror operations went off well, a negotiator would have helped the case. The NSG thought so too.

    And there were official negotiators in Mumbai, both of them outside The Oberoi-Trident hotels on the night of November 26 itself. The two officers, Joint Commissioner of Police (Law and Order) K L Prasad and Joint Commissioner of Police (Traffic) Sanjay Barve, were sent by the state police to the US in 2002 to be trained to tackle hostage situations and negotiate with gunmen. But obviously, no one had a brief either from the state government or the Centre to negotiate, with the Nariman House attempt being a poorly planned exception.

    Media is culpable too.By: Subhabrata Pal | 08-Jun-2009 Reply | Forward Let us all see in media reports what are the losses the security forces took due to media coverage acting as an eye for the paki handler.why dont see that report as well ?accountability is not restricted to a select few.I agree with the no negotiations policy of the government.its a symbol of weakness and all these attacks are primarily symbolic attacks.thats why Taj and Oberoi and the jewish colony were chosen.
    Negotiatios with Terrorists----By: romesh.sharma | 08-Jun-2009 Reply | Forward I hate Terrorists and terrorism but let us not forget these guy,though brain-washed,are still human beings and some where there in them a slumbering conscience does exist.If possible and if they(or anyother terrorist) shows some inclination to talk/discuss that means the conscience is awakening and the person is no more pertinacious.Naturally there will be conditions put forward which lead to some kind of compromise.MrVirendraSharma is simply wrong because achieving NOTHING is presumptive.No NEGOTIATIONS is being presumptuous which gives no favourable results but fatalities which become a good reason of vindictiveness.Yes Terrorism must be eliminated but using power and shrewdness.Couldn't this be possible to save innocent lives?Govt like UPA which fail the strength of will,courage/the guts,tact and power of fast judgment one could hope for some kind of brainy move.If so,why India should negotiate with Pak or sepratists of K.Diplomacy and deception are chief means to win enemy.
    OK. NOTED FOR FUTURE GUIDANCEBy: R.Ramachandran | 08-Jun-2009 Reply | Forward SIR,There is an adage that the first casualty of a war would the war strategy.What matters is what one does in the spur of the moment in a given situation. It applies to all -whether it is security agencies, newspaper agencies etc. Your article a product of research taking more than 6 months is quite good and appreciated.THE GOVT. OF INDIA AND OTHER STATE GOVERNMENTS AND SECURITY AGENCIES WILL NOTE THE SAME FOR FUTURE GUIDANCE.There is no point of a spend thrift, who has been reduced to a beggar, analysing that had he not been spend thrift he would not have been a beggar today!
    What about the role of MediaBy: Prakash Krishnagiri | 08-Jun-2009 Reply | Forward Conveniently all the media reports have totally avoided the bad role the media played all through out the saga. How did the Handlers know about the ministers being in the Hotel? It is only the TV channels which aired such news. Also all channels including NDTV were telecasting live and even calling on top officials and talking them into disclosing the strategy. In the name of exclusivity, they telecast several tit bits..all of which really helped the handlers. It was pathetic to watch in TV, the location of the rocket launchers shown and the possible strategy described. The media were irresponsible and they only aggrevated the issue. Think for a moment, every officer would like to have his air space and importance. If the Journalist pester them with what action they are planning, the Officers would like to say something (irresponsibly) and steel the limelight. After doing enough damage, NDTV and others stopped live telecast before the Ministry gave directives. Why spare media
    Get to the pointBy: A | 08-Jun-2009 Reply | Forward They shd stop wasting time and istead find people responsible for security pases and punish them the same way as ajmal kasab...make examples of such irresponsible loosers...
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