•Shekhar Gupta: Right

Zakir Naik: For example if someone says, I am going to do jihad to clean up the society and he says that pornography should be removed from society, he's right. So he's striving and struggling to remove obscenity from society which is right. But to say in terms which is wrong, which is against the Koran and the Hadith, for example the Koran says in, chapter number 5, verse no: 32, if any human being kills any other human being, whether Muslim or non-Muslim unless it be for murder or for creating corruption in the land, it is as though he has killed the whole of humanity. So any Muslim kills any other non-Muslim, an innocent non-Muslim or a Muslim that is against the Koran.

•Shekhar Gupta: That would apply to the people who went around killing people in 26/11

Zakir Naik: Hundred per cent. It is against the teaching of the Koran Hadith. 26/11, 11 September in new york twin tower killing innocent people even a single Koran goes ahead and says if you kill a single human being it is as though you have killed the whole of humanity. One, they have killed thousands in the world trade centre and even here, 26/11, hundreds, it is totally against the religion

•Shekhar Gupta: And to kill in the name of Islam is unfair to Islam?

Zakir Naik: Unless, unless the verse says unless he has killed someone else for justice or created corruption in the land. So if it falls under these two categories of murder against murder or spreading corruption in the land, that is the time….

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