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She should take care of law & order and development. She should create an environment for development.

What good qualities of the previous government should she learn from or carry forward?

The environment was good. Except the law & order. A good environment was created for people to come from outside and invest.

On law & order, nobody believed Amitabh Bachchan when he said Uttar Pradesh was doing fine.

People say it was not convincing. So, apart from law & order, there was a good atmosphere.

Pro-investment? So she should continue with that?

She should continue with that. It's very important.

And what mistakes of the previous regime should she avoid?

Law & order again. Uttar Pradesh really needs it.

I know you introspect a lot. What mistakes of yours are you learning from? You talked about a lot of things, including Air Sahara, remember?

In general, yes, we have been very open and emotional, which was probably a mistake. I have immense respect for Atal Behari Vajpayeeji. Raj Babbar, who was one of the first celebrities to join us, stood against Atalji for elections, and we came out openly in his support. People asked use why we were supporting him (Raj Babbar) so openly. I said, 'That should be the character of a good human being. If in good weather somebody is a friend for six years, why not in bad weather? Why not go openly?' These things are right or correct in my dictionary, wrong in that of others.

Real life doesn't appreciate all this too much.

Yeah, that's right.

And what else?

Somebody had advised me that you should be discreet about so many things.

But you have been more than discreet.You disappeared.

Disappeared? No, I didn't disappear. But now I'm sleeping more, have more time for exercise and stuff.

You found time for this interview after two years of planning.

I have great respect for you and this programme of yours, so it's my pleasure and honour being here. I'm not doing you a favour. It's a very good programme and anyone would love to be on it.

Thank you very much. You are at your charming best and I believe this is your little shrine.

Yes.

But you know the last time I stood in front of Bharat Mata's statue, it was at the RSS headquarters in Nagpur. What a contrast. Your friends were the exact opposite of the BJP, and your headquarters has a shrine to Bharat Mata.

But I have friends in the BJP too.

The tone on your mobile is Vande Mataram.

That's true, and I have wonderful friends in the BJP too.

That makes you more interesting, a man of many contradictions.

I have no political relations with anybody. It's all personal relationships

Many contradictions, many interesting ideas, many interesting aspects, but not a dull moment. Sahara Subrata Roy, wonderful having you on this programme.

Thank you.

And a pleasure being in Sahara Shehar.

My pleasure and honour that you are here.

editor@expressindia.com